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kecky
Posted at 18/09/2007, 10:07
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fantastic episode of house ! |
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saintdesy
Posted at 18/09/2007, 11:03
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i just find it funny that frog basically describes events that would end freedom and liberty in the world, and his biggest gripe is that he might not be able to watch downloaded us television shows. |
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frog1234
Posted at 18/09/2007, 20:21
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by the way there was some time a go a bunch of evidence that a false flag operation was going to occur with the sears tower, it was linked to a certain date. so i admittedly spammed it to some email lists. funny thing is (very) shortly after there was news of terrorists having been captured who had planned an attack on the sears tower and had explosives, there were some mighty fishing things about the news release too. do i think it likely, or probable that an attack was stopped by the awareness of such a possibility? no. but it is something to ponder. to videoopiate: the video is not grainy, the flash is not the result of some grain anomaly so why even mention graininess? it is very real and visible, totally indesputible that there was a flash and only light created at that point can explain it. you say that hard facts are required but i have given plenty (in another thread), obviously i was asking specifically what evidence not just and your answer which amounts to 'really good evidence' is a pointless reply as obviously only good evidence is considered. |
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frog1234
Posted at 18/09/2007, 22:10
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so you are back to your psychic ways, you know what evidence i have seen now? and initially i was closed to any evidence indicating it was anything other than the conventional story of muslim terrorists with box cutters. until i found hard incontrovertible evidence that simply can not and has not been explained away or even attempted, and then more and more solid evidence proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that bush did it. i am open to evidence that disagrees with this but i can honestly say i have seen not a single shread of evidence that contradicts the government conspiracy angle and certainly nothing approaching hard evidence. i welcome you to present evidence against it, so far all i have seen is highly faulty logic (on a par with maddox's example) and debunking that stretches the limits of credulity such as select windows tens of stories below the compression zone exploding out all because of air pressure as other windows show no are fine. (and as started this doesn't address building 7) none of the evidence is 'grainy' (with possible exception of the first plane impact but still clear enough), none of it is even close to anyone honestly suggesting they are video artifacts but by all means throw the word around so people don actually look at the evidence, see what is so obvious and use their brain. congrats, you are about as brainwashed and clueless as they come, so far you haven't presented anything that isn't embarrassingly lame and ill informed. please, go ahead, find evidence that isn't a farce, i challenge you. (my psychic powers predict you will crumble and provide nothing, go on prove 'em wrong cause i've just watched the dead zone and studying johnny smith and i think i've got it down) |
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death734
Posted at 19/09/2007, 00:52
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serious that sounds dumber then someone is saying its ok to trade liberty for freedom. cause mean while liberty and freedom are the same. he's trying to warn against another inside job attack on america cause he wants the country to be free and stuff and your calling it "communist propaganda". so is freedom and a good government is now thought of a communist thing so we must continue to head towards a policed nation? hah! h**p//www.infowars.com  | h**p://www.prisonplanet.com |h**p://conspiracycentral.net:6969/ |
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calimero
Posted at 19/09/2007, 03:53
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*cough* are there people here who seriously think that bush (or any other president for that matter) would lose one night of sleep over killing 3000 people?? if though he, and a whole lot of other people - not only americans, would have probably died from insomnia by now. a life is a life... no matter what. it seems to me some people start forgetting that again. and maybe some of you guys should start reading up on history when the nazis started taking over germany there were quite a few people who actually tried to fight them and they all were ill reputed as nuts who did not love their country and its leader... just a thought. |
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fridgist
Posted at 19/09/2007, 12:47
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...but, neither can you. you bash frog/zet like you have some incontrevertable evidence to prove the official statement, but i\'m fairly sure there\'s enough hard evidence out there to refute what is actually stated as having happened. anyway, just my 2 pence, lay up on the guy a bit and attempt having a discussion, referencing a book, or just saying, \'show me some evidence\' just doesn\'t cut it when you fail yourself to add anything constructive to the conversation. so either step up, or shut the fuck up. (in the nicest possible way of course) |
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death734
Posted at 19/09/2007, 18:11
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yeah do some research its me and more then half of america that thinks this. depending on which popular poll you look up its between 56-82% that thinks 911 was an inside job. if you actually watch 911 films (loose change, in plane site, 911 road to tyranny, 911 mysteries part 1 demolitions. also terrorstorm is great too but not so much 911 as others) and not just stupidity like scientific american articles that nit pick at things and have half a brain you will see that stuff you see in them is undeniable. (like half of the hijackers being alive in middle east, melting point of steal, no damage at all to grass at pentagon where a plane was suppose to hit. no damage to surround windows where the wings and engins would of smashed through, oh and no damn plane stuff found other then tiny junk and the impact that only a missile could do not a plane, and tons of other stuff). why would they kill? well for starters fear is the best political weapon ever. even hitler (who might of hated jews but was very smart politically) had attacks on his own places to scare the people. 911 did so much for the new world order. we had so many rights stripped because of it. communist crap like patriot act i and ii. so if you want to stick your head in the ground while they make the new world order, which one goal is elimination of 80% of the population and other crap then have fun but i suggest you wake the hell up to what is really going on! honestly i wish i could give more info but i haven't researched any of this stuff in months but infowars.com and alex jones stuff (even radio program) is a good start oh i guess i should add that various people (including alex jones) predicted a terrorist attack just like 911 a few months before it happened based on events going on with the government now so i wouldn't just call someone a moron for thinking something bad is going to happen! |
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NovaKing (Administrator)
Posted at 20/09/2007, 08:08
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firstly, this is a tv forum. secondly, wtf are you rambling on about? thirdly, this is a tv forum. as i'm sure most of our general trolls have been enjoying this thread. i have also been getting many complaints about it. so, based off this.. and the fact i hate being pm'd about people on the forum. i would strongly suggest you find some kind of forum dedicated to this type of topic, or i would have to do bad things.. and bad things requires me to do stuff, and everyone knows i hate doing stuff. choice is yours 
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NovaKing (Administrator)
Posted at 20/09/2007, 08:24
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there is only one thing i can say... who gives a flying fuck. |
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aussiemadmum
Posted at 20/09/2007, 09:00
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guys, you have to admit, zetetic is definately more entertaining than our old 'toy boy'!! but you do have me intrigued. zet, can you please go back and fix your posts where the url's have been removed. i will get around to checking out all of them (the sites i mean  ) i need all the urls, from both sides so i can weigh up the argument. zet....you are obviously very passionate about your beliefs. but maybe to go this far into it, novaking is right. wrong site. and i think that it's your execution of the argument that gets you into trouble! novaking....as for the complaints. for god's sake (sorry god:)), if they don't like it then they shouldn't read it. ffs, don't they think you have anything better to do??? |
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NovaKing (Administrator)
Posted at 20/09/2007, 09:08
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sure they don't have to read it, but the thread title does throw it off for the normal person to determine that this thread is about conspiracy crap. plus again, this isn't the forum for it. |
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aussiemadmum
Posted at 20/09/2007, 09:15
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fair enough. i didn't think about that. because i have seen the progression of the thread, i know what it's evolved to. but others don't, and therefore might get offended. maybe to avoid you any more painful pm's in the future, aydin can change the title to 'conspiracy crap'!!!! but i do believe this is near the end of it's days anyway. |
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Posted at 20/09/2007, 16:42
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Ket
Posted at 14/10/2007, 23:34
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i heard jews did 9/11 confirm/deny? 
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